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China, I'd even go back!
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Although there were negative / annoying aspects of my time here, the overall experience was fantastic. As with all jobs in China I would say that the best schools or centres to work at are the ones which have been established for a year or more and then you won't be a performing monkey (as much!)
Be aware that the details in contracts are not always up to much, check and check again. The salary is good (ish) and although I taught at many different schools with classes of 60 my experience was ace and my students were amazing. I'd even go back!
Publish Date: 2005-5-11
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I do enjoy China   Details
Author: Abram McLaughlin    Send Message to Author
I can only say, that you make sure you talk with the Chinese side of any project, not just the said you are from (as others in the center were also from Global Crossroads and in a bad spot).
Publish Date: 2005-5-11
Source: http://www.abroadchina.org/html/cache=article349.htm
 
For love of a country   Details
Author: Lee Trefz <leetrefz(at)yahoo.ca>
May people who come to China can't bear the place and take o before their contract ends or ASAP thereafter. I personally find myself drawn straight back to the place every time I leave.
Publish Date: 2005-5-11
Source: http://www.abroadchina.org/html/cache=article357.htm
 
A great city and great school   Details
Author: Elizabeth <planetlil(at)yahoo.com>
I've been in Beihai, Guangxi Province for a few months now and am really happy. It's a wonderful city.
Publish Date: 2005-1-6
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1105073717-59492.txt
 
Life-changing experiences and Lasting friendships   Details
Author: Gerard Denaro <g_denaro(at)hotmail.com>
Yes, there is a lot of negativity about the China experience expressed in ESL columns, some of it justified, but I think it also serves to prove that China is not for everyone.
Publish Date: 2005-1-1
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1104576720-887.txt
 
Living in Suzhou, China   Details
Author: Patrick Bois <grooveholmes19(at)hotmail.com>
I have lived in Suzhou, China for 4 months. My life has completely changed. I was wide-eyed when I first arrived, and I still am. However, it will be difficult. The language is new, the culture is different, the society is alien, the laws are non-existent, and the chinese are an interesting race. However, that's what I came here for, and I'm glad I did.
Publish Date: 2004-12-16
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1103201959-97893.txt
 
50 Things I Miss About China, The Big Dragon   Details
Author: Arielle Gabriel <nemesis_is_fun(at)yahoo.com.hk>
Having breakfast of green tea, barbecued peanuts, boiled eggs in brown shells every one a different size and shape. And long sticks of fried bread, and thin soy milk with no additives made in front of you as the girl squishes the soy beans through a milking machine.
Publish Date: 2004-11-18
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1100818833-31390.txt
 
Living in China   Details
Author: Greg <nolonger(at)hotmail.com>
There are some good things about China, but I wouldn't like to live here.
The good things include the history and the people.
The bad things are practically all cultural:
#1/ environmental consciousness:
#2/ toilets:
Publish Date: 2004-10-17
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1097994155-47812.txt
 
What an incredible experience   Details
Author: ESL Blade Runner
Yes, it¡äs a 50-50 gamble that you¡äll wind up getting the short end of the stick at least once, you might not get your "bonus" and you might get lodged in a less than desirable accommodation, BUT DO IT!
Publish Date: 2004-9-21
Source: http://www.englishschoolwatch.org/webboard_detail.php?topic_id=974
 
Love China - Don't Want to Leave   Details
Author: Amber Rollins <amberrollins(at)netscape.net>
China is NOT your home country. If you want everything the way it is at home, then stay there. Don't come with a big "my country is better than this one and the way we do things is the right way" chip on your shoulder. If you're going to whine and cry because you can't get the kind of coffee you get at home or because you don't like the thickness of toilet paper, stay in your little hole.
Publish Date: 2004-9-5
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1094363439-47486.txt
 
HARBINS GREAT   Details
Author: jay <jasonmoore777(at)hotmail.com>
A) we don¡¯t pay tax; B) we don¡¯t pay rent; C) some of us don¡¯t pay bills; D) beers cheap; E)foods cheap; F)you can go out and get sploshed and get a cab home and eat and still have change out of an hours pay.
Publish Date: 2004-9-5
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1094396603-92263.txt
 
Be you white you welcomed to teach English in China   Details
Author: Dick Michael <maryntui(at)yahoo.com>
Well if you are a white be you a culprit and wanna make a fortune, hurry to China but if you are a black even if your accent is good and you are qualified, you will have to wait till all the whites have been absorbed first
Publish Date: 2004-6-24
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1088164105-50660.txt
 
A WARNING TO PROSPECTIVE TEACHERS GOING TO CHINA   Details
Author: no iron rice bowl
I must say that after being here in china for the last year I find it awsome. Although there are some bad companies and some dishonest people I have found some companies are great. As a teacher I make good money and although r and b does not translate to us dollars well it still is good. Expences are low and you can save most of your salary. I save over 500 us a month so why I will not become rich it is better than teaching in us.
Publish Date: 2004-6-22
Source: http://www.englishschoolwatch.org/webboard_detail.php?topic_id=759
 
Where is the love?   Details
Author: Jon-Jon Piasecki <jontypiasecki(at)yahoo.co.uk>
What can I do? I am only one man¡­ China is so big¡­. There are so many innocents being killed. If I just learn to ignore it, am I any better than the thing commiting murder? I feel so utterly helpless¡­ Is there any person that can help me? Surely something can be done.
Publish Date: 2004-5-24
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1085412275-81588.txt
 
CHINA: half a year after, half a year before   Details
Author: Dawid & Joanna <beriskorf(at)interia.pl>
Went on to live in China for almost four months. Our stay was an unforgettable experience and, despite the untruthfulness of our hosts, we have no regrets; the changes it brought to our lives are invaluable, and although it would be a bit of an overstatement to say we
have become different people, we have certainly learnt a great deal about the world, ourselves, and China.
Publish Date: 2004-5-18
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1084884435-845.txt
 
Qingdao-still here
Author: Thomas <auflos(at)yahoo.com>
Several months ago I posted about living in Qingdao. Still a great city to live in! Working in China can be tough. Read the US embassy Beijing website for the warnings about teaching in China! Do a little research about the school who wants to hire you! It's true that telling lies in China is an art :)
But I confess, I love China! It is NEVER boring. If you want adventure and something new everyday - it's here. Teaching can be rewarding. If you are new to this- Go teach 16 hours at a Chinese University. If you want the big bucks come on over and wrestle with the private schools¡­
Still here, still occasinally frustrated (sometimes pissed off) But still lovin' it¡­.
Publish Date: 2004-5-13
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1084499977-24094.txt
 
EF China concepts of ¡ämanagement¡ä   Details
Author: Back in Alaska
One day there was a powercut (hardly a rare occurance in Chinese cities). Shall we cancel lessons now or shall we wait to see if the power returns? Well, time passed as time passes.
Publish Date: 2004-3-25
Source: http://www.englishschoolwatch.org/webboard_detail.php?topic_id=612
 
Savage China   Details
Author: Lily <zootpublicity(at)hotmail.com>
I taught in Shanghai for a 3 years and had my fair share of bad experiences there.
Publish Date: 2004-3-15
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1079271556-94805.txt
 
China for fun
Author: Bob
Hello, I have been living in China for 7 months and I have loved every second of it. My pay is low but I live comfortably on it. I am only 19 with a 4 week TESOL course so I do not ask for the the world.
Here is my problem. I am sick of all the do gooders and their I am here to help China grow blah blah blah. You knock all the people like me who are here for the experience and I don't just mean teaching. This may come as a surprise to you but there is more to life than work. I came here to have fun, travel and teach. I like to party and pick up girls. Whats so bad about that. For the wages they pay what the hell do they expect.
Publish Date: 2004-3-9
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1078822743-21672.txt
 
China is not all bad!   Details
Author: Walter Hoar <wsh_hongkong(at)yahoo.com>
I enjoyed living in China, even if it was different from the USA. But never once was I worried about my safety.
Publish Date: 2004-1-31
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1075620863-93796.txt
 
CHINA BASHERS - AN OLD REFRAIN   Details
Author: Baron B de B <Chinawareness(at)Hotmail.com>
If one visits China for a year, she/he could write a book about his/her experiences. If one lives in China for five years, he/she could write an newpaper or magazine article about her/his experiences. If one lives in China for ten years, one could write a paragraph about his/her experiences. If one lives in China for fifteen years, one could write a sentence about his/her experiences. If one lives in China for twenty years, one could write a word about her/his experiences. And if one lives in China twenty five years, one is speechless.
Publish Date: 2004-1-31
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1075601391-58739.txt
 
One year, and back for a second one   Details
Author: -
Ok ¡­ now ¡­ After reading all your mail I have come to realize that there are two types ¡­ one that bashes China and Chinese schools, culture, and people ¡­ and then the other type which kisses so much Chinese ass ¡­ for the sake of a few dollars, or to keep that under-age girlfriend of his or something. (cant understand why on earth would anyone need to be a brown nose in 2004).
Publish Date: 2004-1-21
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1074694750-92179.txt
 
No money.   Details
Author: Joe
China is OK for a year, but they're too cheap to pay decent salaries. You won't make any money here and let's face it, money is important.
Publish Date: 2004-1-1
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1073002585-70674.txt
 

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