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Feeling in China   Details
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Author: Deston tanner <Deston.Tanner(at)gmail.com>
Don't pay any recruiter a single dollar; Chinese schools aid in your travel expences and they pay you a salary that either has a small percentage taken as a legitimate fee, or is outright stolen by your recruiter: Journey East. Anything said to you by a recruiter is bullshit. That's their job.
Publish Date: 2005-11-3
Source: http://www.abroadchina.org/html/cache=article389.htm
 
One word couldn't quite sum it up   Details
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Author:    Send Message to Author
Coming to China to teach English is something you can't exactly be entirely prepared for. In my case, I wasn't prepared at all.
Publish Date: 2005-6-20
Source: http://www.abroadchina.org/html/cache=article373.htm
 
Teaching In China - You Get Out What You Put In!   Details
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Author: Stephen Dorn <scd01(at)excite.com>
I hope the following is informative to any present or future applicants who are considering teaching in China. Also, I wish to make it clear that while I strongly endorse certain agencies or services, these recommendations are unsolicited and are based solely upon my personal experience.
Publish Date: 2005-6-20
Source: http://www.abroadchina.org/html/cache=article372.htm
 
Come to China
Key Words: Sichuan Work Tips
Author:    Send Message to Author
It was hard going at first, but trust me it's worth it. Make sure you get into a BIG city, or you'll be bored out of your gord. I made a lot of friends in the boon docks, but the night life is literally crickets and maybe a bbq station or two. My suggestion is Sichuan, hot food, hot night life and reasonable living expenses.
One tip - when negotiation your contract over the internet, make sure it is specified in writing you will be teaching in the city, or research to find the names of the districts within the city and make sure the school isn't located hours away. Upon arrival, don't back down when your told that the position is out in the country, this is a tactic to fool newcomers, just explain you will only work in the city and if they don't provide any work you will find some from their competition. This is a nonconfrontational technique that will work quite well if you keep composure and show some backbone.
Publish Date: 2005-5-13
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Any Private Schools   Details
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Author: Senor Boogie woogie    Send Message to Author
My strong recommendation is to skip the so called "private schools". EF is the largest employer, Shane's English is another employer. These schools are an international business and they sell franchises to local people, much like McDonalds.
Publish Date: 2005-5-11
Source: http://www.abroadchina.org/html/cache=article352.htm
 
any new teacher coming to china must
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author:    Send Message to Author
one salary must be 4500
two don¡¯t come on a tourist visa
three get paied for winter and summer brakes
only take a job with on canpus flat
get your air ticket to china before you leave china
get hospital cover from your school in case you get sick
make sure your embassy know your in china
if you don¡¯t get your salary on time thalk to your school they are good
only work for a school direct do not work for a company
before you come to china do your homework and you will be ok
if you have to pay rent do not get your boss to pay he got you here
when you come to china you should require little money as every thing is free if not cheap
if you go to the xpat bars you will pay at least 3dollars a small beer
good luck in coming to china
Publish Date: 2005-4-23
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Just what CAN you say in a Chinese Classroom?   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: smalldog
In general, I wouldn't hesitate to give my views on anything when asked. That's very different to "teaching" something sensitive.
Publish Date: 2005-3-12
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=22297&sid=e9bdf970ba47f94e74e1a60593a14b0b
 
LOOKING FOR CULTURALLY RELEVANT HIGH SCHOOL EFL TEXTBOOKS?   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices, Textbook
Author: rickinbeijing
If you haven't come across them already in your quest for the Holy Textbook, I strongly recommend (with the caveat that I helped write them) the New Senior English for China (NSEC) for high intermediate learners and the Revised Senior English for China (SEFC) for lower intermediate learners. Both are published by People's Education Press and can be ordered online.
Publish Date: 2005-1-26
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=19538
 
Homeland Recruiting opinions   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices, Agency
Author: Chris
Irecruiting agencies in China are DEFINITELY crooked. They make their living from the desperation of less-desirable schools and from our ignorance.
Publish Date: 2005-1-9
Source: http://www.englishschoolwatch.org/webboard_detail.php?topic_id=1110
 
Racism and ESL teaching in China   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Chisty <maryntui(at)yahoo.com>
Just like I mentioned earlier, color is one of the prerequisites to pick up a teaching job out here in China. Therefore if you are a black teacher no matter your nationality, you are not really welcomed in China. What a curse race as many others say.
Publish Date: 2004-12-31
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1104562502-86886.txt
 
Response to "Living in China"   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Jill <chinachic_2001(at)excite.com>
First of all, I must warn you China is a very different culture apart from many countries around the world. However, that does NOT mean it isn't as beautiful and intriguing as all the rest.
Publish Date: 2004-11-10
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1100136423-22683.txt
 
Help, please !   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: annerobw(at)hotkey.net
All these tales of cheating, underpaying, unscrupulous schools, etc ! We are just new to ESL, are there any good stories to tell? Surely among all the schools in China, there must be many good ones. Why not tell more good stories and give us newbies an idea where to head for.
Publish Date: 2004-11-3
Source: http://www.englishschoolwatch.org/webboard_detail.php?topic_id=1037
 
Some encouragement   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: ChrisH <chrisharris51(at)hotmail.com>
Wages are usually higher than a local teacher earns.
The cost of imported foods is very high.
Teaching support is also limited.
Publish Date: 2004-9-15
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1095247058-60056.txt
 
A Word to Female Foreign Teachers   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices, Female
Author: Rabbit <down_therabbithole(at)yahoo.ca>
-Expect to feel a little lonely in China unless you have other female foreigner friends in your school or city. The reason for this being:
A male foreigner will have usually have no problem finding other male foreigners to party and hang out with( as it seems the ratio is 10:1 male to female laowai)
Publish Date: 2004-9-10
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1094832864-81228.txt
 
Breaking contracts and words   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices, Recruit
Author: to_goldenleaf(at)yahoo.com
Some Chinese schools now use their foreign teachers to advertise lucrative job ads on the internet to satisfy the demand. Once there, they will break every promise written in the contract. This is true of summer and winter camp positions, so please make sure you know who you're dealing with.
Publish Date: 2004-9-9
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1094755267-47295.txt
 
Useful Advice for Prospective Teachers   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Lee Odden <Lodden1973(at)yahoo.ca>
1. Teaching English as a second language is very tiring.
2. Choose your school very carefully.
3. Reputable schools are authorized by the government to hire foreign experts and will send you the proper paperwork for you to obtain your Z-Visa (work Visa) before coming to China.
4. Appreciate that contracts do not have the same meaning in China as they do in the West.
5. As a rule, it is safer to teach for public (government regulated) schools and universities than it is for private English language schools.
6. Currently, the overall demand for foreign teachers is greater than the supply.
7. Salaries in mainland China typically range between 3500 to 6000 RMB per month, depending on the qualifications of the teacher and, to a lesser degree, on location.
8. Living in China is not an easy adjustment to make.
Publish Date: 2004-9-9
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1094712481-69452.txt
 
Teaching in Kunming (a personal perspective)   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Mikey-D <lbovingdon(at)hotmail.com>
¡­but !¡­the place makes up for the warped aspects in its sheer charm¡­by comparison to Beijing, and the bigger cities of China, Kunming manages to have a fairly fast-paced and westernised atmosphere whilst not having indulged in some of the darker and less attractive aspects of most western cities
Publish Date: 2004-9-4
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1094322651-98854.txt
 
Check out Chinese Schools
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Kermi79
It is no excuse, however¡­
Cultural stress,
Worries whether or not you are going to get paid,
Seeing that other teachers are not getting their work visa promises fulfilled,
Watching your students attendance drop though no fault of your own,
A temporary bout with food poisoning or dengue fever,
Unexpected problems with your in-country girlfriend,
A big problem student in one of your classes,
No support from the DoS regarding a wealthy problem student,
and the stress caused by a combination of other unexpected problems can leave one to jump to conclusions, whereas if one where on one¡äs own home turf such tensions might not give rise to the jumping of conclusions. The power of the situation often influences the results of the outcome.
Publish Date: 2004-9-2
Source: http://www.englishschoolwatch.org/webboard_detail.php?topic_id=931
 
English for Secretaries course material wanted   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices, Teaching Material
Author: Bill
Make sure you get the copyright to any material that you produce. Some companies, language schools and many universities in Asia will have their native English speaking teachers write the books, whether it is ESL for A-B/B-A conversation practices, or ESL for secretaries, or ESL grammar practice or almost any other topic under the sun.
Publish Date: 2004-8-26
Source: http://www.englishschoolwatch.org/webboard_detail.php?topic_id=910
 
Newbie here¡­.for a help¡­lol   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: dfdlong
1.Sex discrimination toward women( does this exsit in modern society? If so, in which way? How to overcome it?)
2.what are major factors of evaluating people¡äs job perferment( age, ablity, experience, education and opportunities¡­..)
3.Saving money is painful and unnecessary or not?
4.If gasoline would run out during next 20 years on the earth, what would we do now( explore new enegries and protect old ones)
5.Equality of opportunity in the twentieth century has not destroyed the classic system.
6.An unforgetable person or thing you ever had online.
Publish Date: 2004-8-24
Source: http://www.englishschoolwatch.org/webboard_detail.php?topic_id=905
 
a typical advert for teaching in china.   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: ben there
A typical advert for teaching in china.
They¡äll reimburse you for your airticket one year (or more) after you purchase it. Should you be
forced to leave early you can expect no reimbursement.
They provide (unintelligible) 1000 RMB per year for vacation. That¡äs 125 US$! Don¡ät spend it all in one place. Yes, in china you will often be required to pay the foreigner rate instead of the
local rate. Many of the cheap hotels won¡ät take you in and you¡äll be left with few choices but
the expensive hotels. No, 1000 RMB just don¡ät go as far as it used to.
Publish Date: 2004-8-16
Source: http://www.englishschoolwatch.org/webboard_detail.php?topic_id=882
 
Substandard   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: -
If, on the off chance, you are a qualified and experienced teacher, or if you hold a postgraduate degree from a good school, you would do best to apply for those jobs open only to applicants of your calibre. There are many institutions that will pay you well, treat you well and even sponsor academic research -- if you are the sort of person who deserves it. Granted, there are scams and rip-off merchants. However, in my experience of many years, the ones who get ripped off most are (1) the schools (Another DVD class, anyone?), and (2) unqualified and dissolute hacks who oughtn't to be here in the first place.
Publish Date: 2004-8-15
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1092557647-99061.txt
 
Questions to ask before you commit to a school   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Thomas Wang <tw(at)canada.com>
(1) Tell the school that they MUST send you an official invitation letter with the school's letterhead.
(2) How far is the school from city center by public transit (bus, streetcar, ferry)?
(3) Will you be living on campus or off campus?
(4) If the school says that it is a "college", ask them if they have any "junior college" students.
(5) Will you be required to teach at multiple campuses?
(6) How many students per classroom?
(7) Is overtime calculated based on the total number of extra periods you teach WEEKLY, or determined after a full month of lessons?
(8) How many foreign teachers does the school have now?
(9) Are you required to teach from school-provided textbook (boring, dull and often full of errors) or can you "use them as a guideline" and use your own materials?
(10) <--- I leave this to anyone who may have something to add!
Publish Date: 2004-8-13
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1092387407-80816.txt
 
Expectations/Realizations   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Eddie Mills
1. You are a teacher not a tourist
2. You are considered an expert, so behave like one.
3. You are expected to follow China's laws and regulations.
4. If you want to study Chinese, come as a student and not as a teacher.
Publish Date: 2004-8-2
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1091410302-1602.txt
 
About to leave China, some tips for ya'll   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Chad Pearson <logboysayzwhat(at)yahoo.ca>
1. Chinese kids are so cool. Little kids, ie: under 10, are still wide-eyed and wonderful. I found them the most fun to teach.
2. Chinese people (men) are incredibly rude. Not just by Western standards, by human standards.
3. China is dirty. Wash your hands as often as you can.
5. Chinese food in proper restaurants is great.
Publish Date: 2004-7-14
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1089784193-64508.txt
 
Shenyang, Guan Ya thread   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Candace <candace_lafleur(at)hotmail.com>
Yes, Shenyang is not the cleanest city in the world. Yes, it's not the richest. Yes, there is a lot of pollution, and yes, some daily habits that you encounter do seem extreme, but atleast you can come here and see how the rest of the world works. This is a real chinese experience, not like Shanghi or Beijing. There's a lot of beauty here, you just have to look a little deeper.
Publish Date: 2004-6-25
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1088208219-14819.txt
 
Heads up¡­Teaching English Foshan Guandong   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Madalyn <madalyn_ku(at)hotmail.com>
The director will tell you anything just to get you to come to the school. Then to find out while you are signing the contract that it 'was a misunderstanding'. For example: You will have an apartment by yourself (false). A large some will be reimbursed for your plane ticket (false). You will only be required to work 24 hours a week(false). This is just to name a few.
Publish Date: 2004-6-23
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1088009672-98902.txt
 
Ups and Downs of Teaching in China   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Tony <thetransient(at)hotmail.com>
I have been teaching in China for two years now and have found it a bitter sweet experience.
I have been in a "Private" Middle School and my eyes have been forced wide open at what really happens here.
But if you are thinking of coming to China to teach, think long and hard if you really think you are going to make a difference - BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT. Private schools here are a sham - you are just here as an advertising tool.
Believe me at a private school, you are less than nothing here unless they want something from you.
If you don't come with your eyes closed you may have a wonderful time here, much better than South Korea. Be strong without being angry, and do not let them walk over you.
Publish Date: 2004-6-12
Source: http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/forum/index.pl?noframes;read=1534
 
Considering coming to China to teach, stop conside   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Judy Cairns <ttjcairns(at)hotmail.com>
If you are considering coming to China to teach, stop considering and just do it!! I am in my second year now, and I consider China my second home.
Publish Date: 2004-6-2
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1086168835-89802.txt
 
qualification to teach in china¡­¡­.be white.   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Laurence <letsdo_it19(at)hotmail.com>
I couldn't believe my ears when a friend of mine told me he spent a couple of months in china looking for an English position without success¡­.the reason: he is of african descent.
Publish Date: 2004-5-15
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1084611816-36880.txt
 
ABC English Training Center Legit?   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: josie
Contact the school by email and ask:
1.) How many native English-speakers are currently on staff.
2.) Then express your interest in working there with the tag that you would like the email addresses of all (10 or 15) of the teachers working there. You can email the teachers and perhaps get some idea of what the teaching conditions currently are.
3.) If they refuse to provide you with your legitimate request for information or if they seem to be balking in any way, avoid them.
Publish Date: 2004-5-13
Source: http://www.englishschoolwatch.org/webboard_detail.php?topic_id=672
 
Small cities are pretty good¡­and cheap!   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Sarah
But when we got here I got some good advice, "Go shopping and spend some money!". That may sound weird, but small cities are very inexpensive to live in.
Publish Date: 2004-5-8
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1084069210-13277.txt
 
Dongguan
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Richard <richjowen(at)hotmail.com>
I live in Dongguan, Guangdong and you don't want to come here for any reason other than money because it's the worst place I've been out of the many in China. Good luck if you do decide to come and you most likely will make better money than everywhere else in China because Dongguan is where everything that is exported in China is made and there are thousands of factories and most do business with the other countries so that is why you can make good money because they really need English. Be careful though because there are lots of bad people here and don't trust anyone because money is God and people will do anything for it.
Publish Date: 2004-5-3
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1083650953-25012.txt
 
Re: Physical Attractiveness in China   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices, Chinese Girlfriend
Author: Chloe <chloemlarson(at)yahoo.ca>
Chinese girls who date foreign guys tend to fall into three categories, and only one of them is good.
Publish Date: 2004-5-2
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1083537754-76660.txt
 
a lie after lie   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Pam Ricci <pmricci01(at)yahoo.com>
I came to Chongqing China referred by a school. Lets say its name starts with P and rhymes with ENERGY. After researching for 3 months I figured that a referral would be good. After all, the teacher of the school, son is working for the company, sit couldn't be all that bad. Well was I in for a shocker. The company showed pictures of the apartments to us in Vancouver, when we arrived I have no idea where the pictures came from but I did know it was not our apartment¡­ lie number one..
Publish Date: 2004-4-7
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1081342400-98637.txt
 
Some things to remember when thinking about China   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: -
Live a quiet simple life and just do your job well. Give respect and do not try to think or act that you are any better than anyone else. You will die and rott in the same grave as anyone else, leaving this world with absolutely nothing ; the same way you came in --with nothing--naked!
Publish Date: 2004-4-4
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1081068851-18754.txt
 
In praise of Shenzhen   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Peter Bol <kaipoipete(at)xtra.co.nz>
I have spend 7 years and a few months in Shenzhen, the twin city of Hong Kong.I found this the most congenial place to live and work due to the proximity of Hong Kong.It does not mean that all places of work are "good"; I got ripped off twice, which is yet not all that much. Shenzhen is good for the following:
Publish Date: 2004-3-22
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1079829156-3318.txt
 
China can be like this   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Thomas Tompkins <artybeee(at)hotmail.com>
China is usually an adventure but newcomers, beware. Sometimes crazier than usual things happen. Attend!
I work in an excellent school - though the gentleman who "looks after" us really does not understand spoken English. At written English, he's not too bad but to accept his "Yes" in reply to any question is to court disaster. He's an old English teacher, would you believe, but no longer up to today's communicative approach.
Publish Date: 2004-2-26
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1077805858-27366.txt
 
Re: YANG-EN NIGHTMARE   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Thomas Wang <tw(at)canada.com>
I want to use his posting as an example of culture shock (or Bitter Westerner Syndrome to be exact) due to ignorance and failure to mentally prepare oneself before coming to China.
I will not comment on statements about the school owner's alleged criminal past and characteristic. But there are various things that I have come across in other postings that many people never seemed to have commented on.
Publish Date: 2004-2-25
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1085494961-70815.txt
 
Reflecting about China   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Chris <Cdav531(at)asia.com>
My take on all of this is that only certain people willingly give up the relative comfort of their ¡°Western¡± lives to come here to China and teach English.
Publish Date: 2004-2-20
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1077265360-2027.txt
 
Shipping to China   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices, Shipping Costs
Author: Maggie <pollyth(at)hotmail.com>
What I want to say to others who are moving here with more than a suitcase is please check out the shipping costs first.
Publish Date: 2004-2-16
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1076919287-86966.txt
 
Shanghai: Some realities.   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Andrew <ed_barge(at)yahoo.com>
But be aware; there is a lot of competion for good jobs. Language mills offer bits and pieces, nights and weekends, no security, and usually no visa. Fine if you're traveling, but for a serious teacher hardly satisfactory.
Publish Date: 2004-2-11
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1076452088-2437.txt
 
Beware if you are an ABC/CBC/BBC   Details
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Thomas Wang <tw(at)canada.com>
But it's comments like "I don't want my child to be taught by a foreign teacher who doesn't look like a foreigner" and "It's just not that interesting to be speaking English with a foreigner who is of Chinese heritage" that made me wanted to go home.
Publish Date: 2004-1-29
Source: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1075418501-907.txt
 
Two things to remember about China
Key Words: Tips, Advices
Author: Roger Chrisman
One: Nothing is final. Two: Everything is a relationship.
In China relationships are king. So work on yours with your employers -- the Foreign Affairs Office at your school and the academic department you teach in. Here a contract is meerly an invitation to develop a real working and mutually beneficial relationship with the folks at your school. In the end it will be the relationships that get things done, not the contract. Relationships take time and effort to build but they are essential tools in your profession in China. Consider your contract an invitation to build mutually beneficial relationships.
Publish Date: 1999-5-21
Source: http://teflchina.org/jobs/intro/index.htm#two-things
 

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